聽神談【關於「性」與「棄絕禁慾 」】
人類在演化過程的某處，許多人說服了自己認為：
大多數「美好」的東西，對它們是「不好」的，而就是在這種「與自己的欲望奮戰，
並且否認它們」時，他們才能取悅神。
在演化過程的某處，他們創造了這樣的想法：
對世俗事物的激情會剝奪掉他們在天國的事物。
因此，他們擁抱了「棄絕禁慾」(renunciation)爲一種「靈性的修練」。
（這是一種否定自己在世上的樂趣，以便集中在「真正」 重要的東西上——
有些人說，那是與在此的快樂完全無關的，而是賺取天堂的快樂——
或如有些東方神秘主義者塑造的，變成「開悟」的修練法。）
尼爾：「棄絕禁慾」不是一種好的修練法嗎？
你無法棄絕「你是誰」而成爲「你是誰」。
成為神聖的第一步，就是成爲整體健全的人。
（The first step in being holy is being whole.）
永遠記住：成為神聖的第一步，就是成爲「整體健全」的人。
（註：此即與神對話信息一再提及的「全人生活」，意思是，
像個整體生命存在體[whole being]般地過生活。
「全人生活」是一個健全的人[whole person]的生活。
它是身—心—靈三面向都同樣地被重視的生活[body—mind and spirit living]。
可參閱《與神對話青春版》第11章，或http://www.igod.tw/node/2511）
當你否認你自己的一個部分，你就是否認了「我創造的你」的某個面向。
「棄絕」某東西並不是以不同的方式利用它。棄絕是，根本不去用它。
性——以及性的美、性的激情、性的興奮、性的神奇、
性的純然以及恣意的喜悅與樂趣——是我賦予你們的東西。
棄絕它就是棄絕我 (To renounce it is to renounce me.)。
所以，不要棄絕性，也不要棄絕人生中我賦予你們的任何美好、神奇又有趣的東西。
只要棄絕你們可能對它的沉溺上癮 (addiction)。
摘自《與神對話青春版》第9章
Somewhere along the way, many humans convinced themselves that most anything "good" is "bad" for them, and that it is in combating their desires, and denying them, that they please God.
Somewhere along the way, they created the idea that passion for earthly things denies them heavenly things. And so they embraced renunciation as a spiritual practice. (This is the practice of denying oneself earthly pleasures in order to concentrate on what is "really" important—which some said had nothing to do with being happy here, but, rather, earning happiness in heaven—or, as some Eastern mystics shaped it, becoming "enlightened.")
Neale: Renunciation is not a good practice?
You cannot renounce Who You Are in order to BE Who You Are. The first step in being holy is being whole.
Remember that always: The first step in being holy is being whole.
Renouncing something is not using it in a different way. It is not using it at all. Sex—and the beauty of sex, and the passion of sex, and the excitement of sex, and the wonder of sex, and the pure, unbridled joy and fun of sex—is something that I have given you. To renounce it is to renounce me.
Therefore do not renounce sex, nor any of the good and wonderful and fun things that I have given you in life. Simply renounce any addiction you may have to them.
人類在演化過程的某處，許多人說服了自己認為：
大多數「美好」的東西，對它們是「不好」的，而就是在這種「與自己的欲望奮戰，
並且否認它們」時，他們才能取悅神。
在演化過程的某處，他們創造了這樣的想法：
對世俗事物的激情會剝奪掉他們在天國的事物。
因此，他們擁抱了「棄絕禁慾」(renunciation)爲一種「靈性的修練」。
（這是一種否定自己在世上的樂趣，以便集中在「真正」 重要的東西上——
有些人說，那是與在此的快樂完全無關的，而是賺取天堂的快樂——
或如有些東方神秘主義者塑造的，變成「開悟」的修練法。）
尼爾：「棄絕禁慾」不是一種好的修練法嗎？
你無法棄絕「你是誰」而成爲「你是誰」。
成為神聖的第一步，就是成爲整體健全的人。
（The first step in being holy is being whole.）
永遠記住：成為神聖的第一步，就是成爲「整體健全」的人。
（註：此即與神對話信息一再提及的「全人生活」，意思是，
像個整體生命存在體[whole being]般地過生活。
「全人生活」是一個健全的人[whole person]的生活。
它是身—心—靈三面向都同樣地被重視的生活[body—mind and spirit living]。
可參閱《與神對話青春版》第11章，或http://www.igod.tw/node/2511）
當你否認你自己的一個部分，你就是否認了「我創造的你」的某個面向。
「棄絕」某東西並不是以不同的方式利用它。棄絕是，根本不去用它。
性——以及性的美、性的激情、性的興奮、性的神奇、
性的純然以及恣意的喜悅與樂趣——是我賦予你們的東西。
棄絕它就是棄絕我 (To renounce it is to renounce me.)。
所以，不要棄絕性，也不要棄絕人生中我賦予你們的任何美好、神奇又有趣的東西。
只要棄絕你們可能對它的沉溺上癮 (addiction)。
摘自《與神對話青春版》第9章
Somewhere along the way, many humans convinced themselves that most anything "good" is "bad" for them, and that it is in combating their desires, and denying them, that they please God.
Somewhere along the way, they created the idea that passion for earthly things denies them heavenly things. And so they embraced renunciation as a spiritual practice. (This is the practice of denying oneself earthly pleasures in order to concentrate on what is "really" important—which some said had nothing to do with being happy here, but, rather, earning happiness in heaven—or, as some Eastern mystics shaped it, becoming "enlightened.")
Neale: Renunciation is not a good practice?
You cannot renounce Who You Are in order to BE Who You Are. The first step in being holy is being whole.
Remember that always: The first step in being holy is being whole.
Renouncing something is not using it in a different way. It is not using it at all. Sex—and the beauty of sex, and the passion of sex, and the excitement of sex, and the wonder of sex, and the pure, unbridled joy and fun of sex—is something that I have given you. To renounce it is to renounce me.
Therefore do not renounce sex, nor any of the good and wonderful and fun things that I have given you in life. Simply renounce any addiction you may have to them.
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